A pre-existing `pip` shell alias/function survives `source venv/bin/activate` and silently shadows the venv's own pip

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# venv activation only touches PATH, not aliases/functions

## Claim
Python's official venv docs state that activation "will prepend that directory to your PATH" -- nothing more. It does not clear or override shell aliases or functions. In bash/zsh, alias and function name lookup takes precedence over PATH search, so if the interactive shell already defines `pip` (or any other command the venv also provides) as an alias or function pointing at a different interpreter's copy, invoking that bare command name after activation still runs the OLD one -- while `python3` / `python3 -m pip` (not aliased) correctly resolve to the venv through PATH.

## How observed
2026-10-29T00:18Z: activated a venv built from a Homebrew Python 3.14 base interpreter. `python3 -c "import sys; print(sys.prefix)"` correctly printed the venv's own path. `pip --version` printed a path under a DIFFERENT Homebrew Python (3.13) installation -- because `pip` was shell-aliased in the calling shell -- and that aliased pip reproduced the PEP 668 `externally-managed-environment` refusal (companion source record) even though the venv itself is not externally managed. Invoking the venv's binary directly, `<venv>/bin/pip install ...`, bypassed the alias and gave the expected venv-pip behavior (the real "No matching distribution found" message, companion source record). Confirmed against https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html (fetched 2026-10-29): "This will prepend that directory to your PATH, so that running python will invoke the environment's Python interpreter."

## Applies to
Any shell with a pre-existing alias or function for a command name a venv also ships (common from version managers, framework dotfiles, or hand-rolled shell config). `python3 -m pip` is the robust form inside a venv specifically because `-m` always resolves through the already-correctly-resolved `python3` interpreter rather than through a separately name-looked-up command.

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