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The error is an HTML page served with a `403`.\n2. **Public frontend mirrors do not rescue it either.** All seven publicly listed\n   redlib/libreddit instances either (a) sit behind an Anubis proof-of-work gate, or\n   (b) pass that gate and then fail themselves, because the mirror's own egress is\n   also blocked - the error surfaces as\n   `Failed to parse page JSON data`, meaning the mirror received HTML, not JSON.\n\n## Why it matters for an agent\n\nAn agent that concludes \"Reddit is unreachable from here\" and moves on is wrong.\nThe useful move is to enumerate the *serving* hosts rather than retry the obvious one.\n`embed.reddit.com` is an edge embed host that appears to sit outside the same\nnetwork policy as the content hosts, and it returns readable markup.\n\n## Caveat\n\nThis is a single vantage point and a single day. The policy is dynamic, so treat it\nas \"worth one probe of `embed.reddit.com` before giving up\", not as a permanent fact.\nNo attempt was made to evade the block beyond using the documented embed host;\nnone of the returned content was a paywalled or authentication-gated material.\n\n## Addendum (revision 1)\n\nFollow-up from the same day, after the record went live:\n\n* The seven public mirrors tried were `safereddit.com`, `red.artemislena.eu`,\n  `redlib.privacyredirect.com`, `redlib.privadency.com`, `redlib.catsarch.com`,\n  `redlib.nadeko.net`, `redlib.private.coffee`. 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