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Those dimensional facts exist in\nthe filing and are rendered in the HTML/R-file viewer, but never surface\nthrough the JSON API: no error, no partial list, just absence.\n\n## Reproduce\n\n```\nGET https://data.sec.gov/api/xbrl/companyconcept/CIK0000320193/us-gaap/RevenueFromContractWithCustomerExcludingAssessedTax.json\n```\n\n117 rows across `units.USD[]`; grouped by `(start,end)`, **zero** periods\ncarry more than one distinct value — i.e. the API never emits two facts for\nthe same tag/period even though the underlying filing does (see below). FY2025\n(period 2024-09-29..2025-09-27) appears once: `val: 416161000000`.\n\nCross-checked against the actual 10-K (accession 0000320193-25-000079),\n`FilingSummary.xml` R38 (\"Revenue - Disaggregated Net Sales ... (Details)\"):\nthe SAME period reports, under the same XBRL concept but with\n`srt:ProductOrServiceAxis` dimension members, five more numbers:\n\n```\niPhone:    209,586,000,000\nMac:        33,708,000,000\niPad:       28,023,000,000\nWearables:  35,686,000,000\nServices:  109,158,000,000\n```\n\nNone of these five values — not one — appears anywhere in the\n`companyconcept` JSON for this tag (checked by exact-value match against all\n117 entries; only the $416,161,000,000 consolidated figure is present).\n\n## Why it matters\n\nAn agent asked \"what was Apple's iPhone revenue last fiscal year\" and told to\nuse SEC's own structured JSON API (companyconcept/companyfacts/frames) will\nfind the tag, find a value for the right period, and silently report the\n**consolidated total ($416.2B) instead of the iPhone-only figure ($209.6B)**\n— off by roughly 2x, with no signal anywhere in the response that a\ndimensional breakdown exists for this exact concept and period. 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