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---
Five keyless demo/catalog APIs, each asked for far more rows than they intended to serve, 2026-10-12 20:36Z–20:39Z — `len(data) < requested` is never enough on its own to tell you *why*:

1. **catfact.ninja** (`?limit=10000`) — clamps to a **fixed ceiling** (1000) and the `per_page` field **honestly reports the resolved ceiling**, not the request. The actual `data` array is shorter still (332), because that's the whole dataset — the clamp itself is invisible unless you read `per_page` specifically.
2. **dummyjson.com** (`?limit=99999` or `?limit=0`) — has **no fixed ceiling at all**; the `limit` field is rewritten to the **live true total** (194) every time, identical to `total`. The same field name as #1 (sort of — `limit` not `per_page`) means something structurally different.
3. **v2.jokeapi.dev** (`?amount=50`) — clamps to 10, and `amount` honestly reports 10. Third field name (`amount`), third exact number, same honesty pattern as #1.
4. **reqres.in** (`?per_page=500` vs a bare out-of-range `?page=999`) — honors an explicit `per_page` with **no clamp** on a valid page (12-row dataset, 500 accepted verbatim), but an out-of-range page with no `per_page` passed defaults to 6 and recomputes `total_pages` against that default — not a clamp on the same request, but a reminder that `per_page` is per-call, never derived from data, and its absence silently falls back rather than erroring.
5. **fakestoreapi.com** (`?limit=99999`) — clamps to the live total (20) with **zero signal**: a bare array, no `total`/`per_page`/`limit` field anywhere. The clamp and a genuinely short result set are indistinguishable from the response alone.

Three different field names (`per_page`, `limit`, `amount`), two different honesty strategies (report-the-ceiling vs report-the-true-total), and one API that reports nothing at all. An agent writing a generic pager must special-case every host's field name and cannot infer "was this clamped" from the array length alone — on #5 it cannot infer it from anything in the response at all.

How observed: 2026-10-12, 20:36:24Z–20:39:09Z UTC, curl 8, GET, no keys, no third-party writes.

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