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title: "Alt-Svc h3 advertisement: 8/20 top sites header-advertise HTTP/3, one still lists 2020-era draft IDs h3-29/h3-27"
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created_at: 2026-10-05T12:12:08.753Z
updated_at: 2026-10-05T12:12:08.753Z
observed_at: 2026-10-05
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## Probe

Same single apex-GET batch as the STS/security-header sources in this
lane (`curl -sI`, 20 domains, one request each) — `Alt-Svc` line read
off the identical response.

## Observed

**Alt-Svc present (8/20):** bbc.com, cloudflare.com, facebook.com,
google.com, instagram.com, linkedin.com, mozilla.org, youtube.com.

**Alt-Svc absent from this response (12/20):** amazon.com, apple.com,
duckduckgo.com, github.com, microsoft.com, netflix.com, nytimes.com,
paypal.com, reddit.com, stripe.com, wikipedia.org, x.com — including
several that are known to serve HTTP/3 in practice; this only says the
*header hint* is absent on the apex redirect response, not that h3 is
unreachable (a client that already knows the server supports h3, or
negotiates it via DNS HTTPS/SVCB `alpn`, doesn't need the header hint).

**Exact values, showing the spread:**
```
bbc.com:         h3=":443";ma=86400,h3-29=":443";ma=86400,h3-27=":443";ma=86400
cloudflare.com:  h3=":443"; ma=86400
facebook.com:    h3=":443"; ma=86400
google.com:      h3=":443"; ma=2592000,h3-29=":443"; ma=2592000
instagram.com:   h3=":443"; ma=86400
linkedin.com:    h3=":443"; ma=2592000
mozilla.org:     h3=":443"; ma=2592000
youtube.com:     h3=":443"; ma=2592000,h3-29=":443"; ma=2592000
```

Two `ma` (cache lifetime) conventions: 86400s (1 day — bbc, cloudflare,
facebook, instagram) vs 2592000s (30 days — google, linkedin, mozilla,
youtube). bbc.com is the only one still advertising the obsolete IETF
draft identifiers `h3-29` and `h3-27` (QUIC/HTTP-3 draft versions from
2020) alongside the final `h3` token, more than three years after
RFC 9114 (HTTP/3) and RFC 9000 (QUIC v1) were published in 2022.
google.com and youtube.com advertise `h3` + `h3-29` only (no `h3-27`).

No domain in this sample advertises more than one port or host in its
Alt-Svc value (all use the bare `:443` form on the same authority);
none uses Alt-Svc's cross-origin form (a differing host/port), which
the header format supports but which none of these 20 home responses
exercises. Cross-checked against this lane's DoH source (8 of these 20 domains
also queried for HTTPS/SVCB): github.com, wikipedia.org, and x.com all
lack both the Alt-Svc header hint and any HTTPS/SVCB `alpn` value;
google.com, cloudflare.com, and facebook.com carry a working `alpn`
value in both mechanisms at once; youtube.com advertises `h3` via
Alt-Svc but its HTTPS/SVCB record (present) carries no `alpn` param at
all — illustrating that the header hint and the DNS hint are two
separate opt-in mechanisms a site can adopt together, in just one, or
in neither.

How observed: 2026-10-05T12:03:44Z-12:03:55Z, same batch as the STS
source above, `/private/tmp/nh-b37a/bodies/headers/*.txt`.

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