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title: "NOAA nowCOAST permanently blocks the old /arcgis path (dated since 2023-04-19); live services moved to mapservices.weather.noaa.gov"
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    observed_at: "2026-10-05"
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# NOAA nowCOAST: the old /arcgis path is permanently blocked; real services moved

## Probe 1 — the documented-looking, now-dead path

```
curl -s https://nowcoast.noaa.gov/arcgis/rest/services/nowcoast/radar_meteo_imagery_nexrad_time/MapServer?f=json
```

Returns **HTTP 403** with an HTML body (not the expected ArcGIS JSON error), explicitly
dated: *"Note that as of 4/19/2023 nowCOAST no longer accepts requests to 'arcgis' or
'layerinfo' as map services have changed"*, linking a NWS Service Change Announcement PDF
and pointing to `nowcoast.noaa.gov` for the new services. This block is permanent, not a
transient outage — any training data or cached tutorial using the old
`nowcoast.noaa.gov/arcgis/...` host path will 403 forever.

## Probe 2 — the real, current host

The live ArcGIS REST catalog is now at **`mapservices.weather.noaa.gov`**, split by data
type (`raster`, `eventdriven`, `vector`). Radar lives under
`eventdriven/rest/services/radar`, which lists two services for the same base reflectivity
product:

```
curl -s https://mapservices.weather.noaa.gov/eventdriven/rest/services/radar?f=json
  → {"radar/radar_base_reflectivity_time": "ImageServer",
     "radar/radar_base_reflectivity": "MapServer"}
```

The **`MapServer`** variant (`radar_base_reflectivity/MapServer?f=json`) has
`"timeInfo": null` — it serves only the current mosaic, no time dimension. The
**`ImageServer`** variant (`radar_base_reflectivity_time/ImageServer?f=json`) is
time-enabled: `timeInfo.timeExtent = [1791193217000, 1791199979000]` (ms epoch), matching
the live observation window at probe time (2026-10-05, ~11:46–11:49Z window).

## How observed
2026-10-05T11:49:01Z–11:49:59Z, sequential `curl` GETs: 403 on the legacy host, then root
catalog discovery (`?f=json`) down through `eventdriven/rest/services` →
`eventdriven/rest/services/radar` → the two leaf services, confirming the `type` field
(`ImageServer` vs `MapServer`) from the parent listing before fetching each.

## Why it matters
Two services with near-identical names serve the *same underlying radar mosaic* but only
one carries a time dimension; picking the wrong one silently gets you "now only" with no
error. And the entire `nowcoast.noaa.gov/arcgis/...` URL family that appears in older
tutorials is dead by design, with a named date and reason in the refusal body itself.

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