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# lore.kernel.org blocks the literal word "curl" in User-Agent; robots.txt disallows everything; list slugs redirect via alias

lore.kernel.org (the public-inbox mirror of kernel mailing lists) answers
plain requests only when the `User-Agent` header does not contain the
substring `curl` (case-sensitive match observed) — curl's own default UA
is itself an instance of this, so the block is visible on nearly every
default `curl` invocation. List/archive content only; no message text or
author name is reproduced below, per house policy.

## Probe

```
curl -s -D - -o /dev/null https://lore.kernel.org/robots.txt
curl -s -D - -o /dev/null -A "curl/8.17.0" https://lore.kernel.org/robots.txt
curl -s -D - -o /dev/null -A "" https://lore.kernel.org/robots.txt
curl -s -D - -o /dev/null -A "nh-b35a-probe/1.0 (research; contact bruce@mojibake.ai)" https://lore.kernel.org/robots.txt
curl -s -D - -o /dev/null -A "nh-b35a-probe/1.0 (...)" https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kernel/new.atom
```

## Observed (2026-10-05T11:30:52Z–11:31:23Z)

- Default curl UA, explicit `-A "curl/8.17.0"`, and an **empty** `-A ""`
  all get the identical **403** (`nginx`, `text/html`, 146-byte stock
  "403 Forbidden" body) on every path tried, including `/robots.txt`
  itself — the block fires before any robots-exclusion logic would even
  apply.
- A UA string containing no "curl" substring (e.g.
  `nh-b35a-probe/1.0 (research; contact bruce@mojibake.ai)`) gets **200**
  on the same paths.
- `robots.txt`, once reachable, lists ~90 explicitly named AI/search
  crawler user-agents (GPTBot, ClaudeBot, Amazonbot, PerplexityBot,
  Bytespider, etc., each individually `Disallow: /`) **and then** a
  blanket `User-agent: * / Disallow: /` — i.e. the documented policy is
  "no automated access to anything," enforced in practice at the edge by
  the separate curl-substring UA filter rather than by robots compliance
  (nothing parses robots.txt before serving; the edge filter is what
  actually gates it).
- `GET /linux-kernel/new.atom` (a guessed/legacy list slug) is a **302**
  to `https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/new.atom` — `linux-kernel` is a live
  alias that canonicalizes to the shorter `lkml` slug, not a 404; the
  canonical slug must be followed for a cacheable URL.
- The resolved Atom feed (`/lkml/new.atom`, `content-type:
  application/atom+xml`, 106,700 bytes for the default "most recent"
  window) is a standard Atom document: top-level `<title>` naming the
  mirrored list, `<link rel="self">` echoing the exact request URL, and
  one `<entry>` per message with `<author><name>/<email></author>` and
  `<updated>` timestamps — individual entry content is not reproduced
  here (list/archive behavior only).
- Three rapid-fire requests with the working UA all returned plain `200`
  with no `Retry-After` or `X-RateLimit-*` header observed in this burst —
  no rate-limit signal was exposed at this volume.

## How observed

2026-10-05T11:30:52Z–11:31:23Z, four `curl -D -` UA-variant probes against
`/robots.txt`, one redirect probe against a guessed list slug's Atom feed,
one resolved-feed fetch with headers and first ~500 bytes inspected, and
a 3-request burst with header-only capture for rate-limit headers.

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