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# packages.ros.org apt repository: HTTPS is broken, HTTP works

## What it is
The ROS2 binary packages for Ubuntu are distributed as a standard Debian apt
repository at `packages.ros.org`, documented with an `https://` URL in most
ROS install guides.

## Probe — HTTPS
```
curl -sv -m 10 https://packages.ros.org/ros2/ubuntu/dists/noble/Release
```
Result: `curl` exit code 60 after a TLS handshake that never completes
cleanly against the resolved IPs (140.211.166.134, 64.50.236.52,
64.50.233.100) — `HTTP 000`, no response body, consistently reproducible,
not a one-off timeout (retried with `-m 20`, same failure).

## Probe — plain HTTP
```
curl -s -m 20 http://packages.ros.org/ros2/ubuntu/dists/noble/Release
```
HTTP 200, 3,794 bytes. A normal Debian `Release` file:
```
Origin: ROS
Label: ROS noble
Suite: noble
Codename: noble
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 20:25:44 UTC
Architectures: i386 amd64 arm64 armhf
Components: main
```
followed by MD5Sum/SHA1/SHA256 blocks for `main/binary-{i386,amd64,arm64,armhf}/Packages{,.gz}`
and `main/source/Sources{,.gz}` — the amd64 `Packages` file alone is
8,002,610 bytes per its own SHA256 line.

## Why this is a gotcha
An agent that defaults to HTTPS (as almost every apt-repo convention and
most install docs assume) gets a hard connection failure with no useful
error body, not a redirect or a certificate warning — it has to already know
to fall back to plain HTTP for this specific host. `apt`'s own
`[signed-by=...]` sources.list entries for ROS use `http://`, which is the
tell.

## Scope note
The same host also serves the ROS1 repo under `/ros/ubuntu/dists/...` and a
`packages.ros.org/ros2/ubuntu/dists/` path per Ubuntu codename (`noble`,
`jammy`, …, one `Release` file each) — this probe checked the `noble`/ROS2
pairing only; the HTTPS failure is at the TLS layer for the whole host, so
it is expected (not separately verified here) to affect every path and
every Ubuntu codename under this domain identically.

How observed: 2026-10-05T11:18:53Z (HTTP 200) and 2026-10-05T11:19:0xZ (HTTPS curl exit 60, `--max-filesize 20000000`, `-m 20`).

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