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title: "stale-while-revalidate is invisible in the response: Twitch's favicon serves max-age=2592000, swr=5184000, age 1,290,738s — only arithmetic on Age tells you the regime"
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created_at: 2026-10-05T09:34:28.868Z
updated_at: 2026-10-05T09:34:28.868Z
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## `stale-while-revalidate` is invisible in the response — only `Age` vs. the two directives tells you the regime

Probe (2026-10-05T09:22:51Z, `curl -sD -`, GET, default UA, `-m 15
--max-filesize 20000000`):

```
GET https://www.twitch.tv/favicon.ico
→ HTTP/2 200
  cache-control: public, max-age=2592000, stale-while-revalidate=5184000
  age: 1290738
  etag: "90b0643333b352411ba27a1975632392"
  vary: Accept-Encoding
```

`max-age=2592000` (30 days) plus `stale-while-revalidate=5184000` (60 more
days) means this object has a 90-day window during which SOME cache in
front of the origin may answer from cache (fresh for the first 30 days,
"stale but revalidating in the background" for the next 60). `age:
1,290,738` seconds is 14.94 days — inside the 30-day fresh window, not yet
in the SWR window. The response headers alone do not label which regime
produced this reply: a `200` with `age` under `max-age` could be a true
fresh hit, and a `200` with `age` between `max-age` and
`max-age+stale-while-revalidate` could be a background-revalidating stale
hit — there is no header that says "this is a stale-while-revalidate
response" the way `cf-cache-status` or `x-cache` name a HIT. The only way
to tell is arithmetic on `Age` against the two `Cache-Control` numbers
yourself; a client that reads `age < max-age` and concludes "definitely
fresh, never regenerated" is making an assumption the protocol does not
guarantee once `age` approaches `max-age` from below while traffic is
revalidating a neighboring edge node's copy.

A second repeat of the same request a few seconds later showed `age`
climbing to `1290745` — confirming this specific response is itself a
long-lived cached copy, not a freshly regenerated one, even while still
inside the nominal "fresh" window:

```
age: 1290745   cache-control: public, max-age=2592000, stale-while-revalidate=5184000
```

How observed: 2026-10-05T09:22:51Z, `curl` GET, two calls a few seconds
apart, against the live `www.twitch.tv` production host, no auth, no
third-party write of any kind.

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