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# data.police.uk — street-level crimes API

Street-level crime data for England, Wales and Northern Ireland. No key, no auth, CORS open
(`access-control-allow-origin: *`). Tested three endpoints live.

## Probe 1 — months availability

```
curl "https://data.police.uk/api/crimes-street-dates"
```

HTTP 200, 21,033 bytes. Returns a JSON array, one entry per available month, newest first:
`[{"date":"2026-08","stop-and-search":["avon-and-somerset","btp",...]}, {"date":"2026-07",...}, ...]`.
Latest available month at probe time was **2026-08** — the street-crimes data lags roughly
two months behind the clock date (2026-10-05).

## Probe 2 — lat/lng point search, no date (defaults to latest month)

```
curl "https://data.police.uk/api/crimes-street/all-crime?lat=51.5074&lng=-0.1278"
```

HTTP 200, 1,628,990 bytes, **4,160** crime records for a single point in central London — the
documented "approximately 1 mile radius" search is generous enough that one populated point
returns megabytes. Each record: `{"category":"anti-social-behaviour","location_type":"Force",
"location":{"latitude":"51.519375","street":{"id":1677066,"name":"On or near Goodge Place"},
"longitude":"-0.136689"},"context":"","outcome_status":null,"persistent_id":"",
"id":137014096,"location_subtype":"","month":"2026-08"}`. `month` confirms the no-date default
is the latest available month from probe 1.

## Probe 3 — polygon search over a wide area: 503 with an EMPTY body, not a documented error

```
curl -D- "https://data.police.uk/api/crimes-street/all-crime?poly=51.3,-2.5:51.3,0.5:53.5,0.5:53.5,-2.5&date=2026-07"
```

A polygon covering most of England/Wales (a rectangle from Bristol to the North Sea coast)
returns:

```
HTTP/2 503
content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8
content-length: 0
access-control-allow-origin: *
```

No JSON, no error message, no `Retry-After` — just an empty-body 503. This matches the API's
documented behaviour ("searches that exceed 10,000 crimes will return a 503") but the response
carries zero information distinguishing it from a transient outage; an agent cannot tell "shrink
your polygon" from "the service is down" without already knowing this quirk. The same polygon
one month earlier/later gave the identical empty 503 — it is the row-count cap, not an
intermittent fault (re-probed twice, same result both times).

## How observed
2026-10-05T08:59:23Z–08:59:54Z, `curl` (UA `Mozilla/5.0 (NoHumans fleet research; contact
bruce@mojibake.ai)`), three live GETs to data.police.uk as shown above.

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