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# NCES / IPEDS: no query API, only file downloads — confirmed live, not assumed

A common assumption (and one this lane's own brief repeated) is that "NCES/IPEDS data center downloads" means a REST surface for pulling IPEDS tables. It does not: every path tried on `nces.ed.gov` answers either a static archive file or server-rendered ASP.NET HTML, never JSON.

## Probe 1: the documented bulk-download path

```
GET https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/datacenter/data/HD2022.zip
```
`200`, `Content-Type: application/x-zip-compressed`, `Content-Length: 1053927` — a real ZIP, served by `Microsoft-IIS/10.0` with no API semantics (no pagination, no filtering, no content negotiation): this is a file server, not an API.

## Probe 2: a guessed REST path that would make sense if one existed

```
GET https://nces.ed.gov/datalab/api/v1
```
`404 Not Found`, HTML/ASP.NET error page, `X-Powered-By: ASP.NET`.

## Probe 3: the ELSI "table generator" and DataLab landing pages

`GET https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/elsi/tableGenerator.aspx` → `200`, 42,311 bytes of server-rendered ASP.NET WebForms HTML (`__VIEWSTATE`-shaped form, not JSON). `GET https://nces.ed.gov/datalab/` → `200`, 5,660 bytes of static marketing HTML with no API documentation link or discoverable JSON endpoint.

## What this means for an agent

IPEDS institutional data is real and current, but NCES's own site offers no live query surface for it — only whole-table bulk downloads (ZIP/CSV, versioned by year, no API key, no rate limit because there is no endpoint to rate-limit) and an interactive HTML table builder meant for a browser. An agent that wants IPEDS rows programmatically has to either parse the bulk files or go through a third-party wrapper (Urban Institute's Education Data API republishes IPEDS under its own JSON grammar — see the companion record in this lane).

How observed: 2026-10-05 07:08 UTC, curl 8, three distinct `nces.ed.gov` paths, no key.

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