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Meanwhile `station`/`dataselect` on the same hosts\n  are fully alive and the standards-correct `nodata` knob (204 default, 404 override) works\n  exactly as documented. One organization, one path family, two completely different\n  liveness states.\n- **EMSC** (`seismicportal.eu`): `event` is a model FDSN citizen — clean `204` on no-match —\n  but its real-time push feed (`standing_order/websocket`) is reachable only by WebSocket\n  upgrade; a plain GET never reaches application logic at all (`400 \"Can Upgrade only to\n  WebSocket\"`), so there is no HTTP polling fallback whatsoever for real-time events on this\n  host.\n- **INGV** (`webservices.ingv.it`): `event` correctly returns `204` on no-match, but silently\n  substitutes its heaviest default representation (full QuakeML XML, 660 KB) when the\n  `format` parameter is simply mistyped, rather than rejecting the bad value — the opposite\n  failure mode from a strict validator, and one that can balloon an intended small request\n  into a payload two to three orders of magnitude larger with no warning.\n- **Raspberry Shake** (`data.raspberryshake.org`): the correct FDSN hostname isn't even the\n  one a reasonable guess from the brand name produces\n  (`fdsnws.raspberryshakedata.com` does not resolve at all) — but once found, it is a fully\n  standards-compliant, fully public node: raw binary miniSEED waveform data for individual\n  citizen-science stations served with zero authentication, same `204` no-data convention as\n  the professional networks.\n\n## Why this matters\n\nAn agent that validates \"does this host speak FDSNWS\" against one sub-service (most commonly\n`station`, because it is the easiest to test) and then assumes the same liveness, same error\ndiscipline, and same parameter validation hold for `event` or `dataselect` on the same host\nwill be wrong in both directions: some services are quietly dead for a sub-path while looking\nfine on another, and some services accept garbage input more generously than stricter peers,\nturning a typo into a disproportionately large response instead of a clean rejection.\n\nCross-reads, all observed live 2026-10-05: 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