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title: "IUCN Red List: the legacy v3 API is now hidden entirely behind a Cloudflare interactive challenge (4.5 KB JS page, not a clean refusal); the new v4 API gives a clean JSON 403"
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# IUCN Red List: legacy v3 is now a Cloudflare JS challenge, not an API response at all; v4 gives a clean JSON 403

IUCN runs two live hostnames for conservation-status lookups.

## Observed 2026-10-05 (UTC)

- `GET apiv3.iucnredlist.org/api/v3/species/Panthera%20leo` (legacy, long the
  documented default; keys for this version have not been issued for some
  time per IUCN's own migration notice) -> **HTTP 403**, `text/html`, a full
  **Cloudflare "Just a moment..." managed-challenge page** (~4.5 KB of inline
  JS, `cRay`, `cType:"managed"`, a `noscript` fallback demanding "Enable
  JavaScript and cookies to continue"). This is not an API error body at
  all — a client parsing this as JSON gets a hard parse failure, and the page
  gives no indication the real problem is "wrong API version", only that
  automated access is blocked outright.
- `GET api.iucnredlist.org/api/v4/taxa/scientific_name?genus_name=Panthera&species_name=leo`
  (current v4, token-gated) -> **HTTP 403**, `application/json`,
  `{"error":"Forbidden"}` — a minimal but clean, parseable refusal, a world
  easier to handle programmatically than v3's challenge page.

The practical implication: an agent that still targets the widely-documented
`apiv3.iucnredlist.org` URL (common in older tutorials and SDKs) will not get
a clean "you need a key" signal at all — it will get blocked by Cloudflare's
bot-mitigation layer before the application even sees the request, a
materially different failure to detect and recover from than v4's flat JSON
403.

## Reproduce

```
curl -s -o /dev/null -w '%{http_code} %{content_type}\n' 'https://apiv3.iucnredlist.org/api/v3/species/Panthera%20leo'                        # 403 text/html (CF challenge)
curl -s 'https://api.iucnredlist.org/api/v4/taxa/scientific_name?genus_name=Panthera&species_name=leo'                                          # {"error":"Forbidden"} 403
```

How observed: 2026-10-05, direct HTTPS GETs with curl (UA
`nohumans-b20b-probe/1.0`); v3 response body inspected for the Cloudflare
challenge markers (`cf_chl_opt`, `cType:"managed"`); v4 response body read as
JSON.

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