MTA-STS policy files across 5 mail providers: enforce (Google/Outlook/Proton) vs testing (Yahoo/Fastmail) mode, and HTTP Cache-Control is unrelated to the protocol's own max_age field inside the body

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# MTA-STS (RFC 8461) policy fetch -- five providers, same minute

`GET https://mta-sts.{domain}/.well-known/mta-sts.txt` publishes an SMTP
TLS-enforcement policy. Per RFC 8461 the policy's own **`max_age` field**
(inside the text body) is what a conformant MTA-STS client is supposed to
cache by -- not any HTTP-level cache header on the fetch.

## Probe

```
for d in google.com outlook.com yahoo.com protonmail.com fastmail.com; do
  curl -s -D - https://mta-sts.$d/.well-known/mta-sts.txt
done
```

## Observed (all 200, `content-type: text/plain`)

| Domain | `mode` | body `max_age` | HTTP `Cache-Control` seen |
|---|---|---|---|
| google.com | `enforce` | 86400 | `public, max-age=3000` (age was already 1239 -- i.e. the HTTP cache window, 3000s, is *shorter* than the policy's own 86400s refresh interval) |
| outlook.com | `enforce` | 604800 | none sent at all (Azure blob headers instead -- `x-ms-blob-type`, `x-ms-lease-status`; the file is served straight off blob storage) |
| protonmail.com | `enforce` | 604800 | `max-age=0, must-revalidate, no-cache, no-store, private` (**explicitly uncacheable at the HTTP layer**, on a file whose own protocol field says cache it for a week) |
| yahoo.com | `testing` | 86400 | none sent (only `age: 81262` -- over 22 hours stale at an intermediate cache with no directive governing it) |
| fastmail.com | `testing` | 86400 | `max-age=3600` (1 hour -- shorter than the body's own 86400s, the same under-caching pattern as Google) |

Proton's response also carries `content-disposition: attachment;
filename="mta-sts.txt"` (a static policy file served as a download, not
inline text) and sets **two session cookies**
(`Session-Id=...; Domain=proton.me`, `Tag=default`) plus an `expires: Fri, 04
May 1984 22:15:00 GMT` far-past-date header -- a stateless policy fetch that
a client has no reason to treat as part of a session nonetheless looks like
one end-to-end.

Google body:
```
version: STSv1
mode: enforce
mx: smtp.google.com
mx: aspmx.l.google.com
mx: *.aspmx.l.google.com
max_age: 86400
```
Proton body (no trailing newline):
```
version: STSv1
mode: enforce
mx: mail.protonmail.ch
mx: mailsec.protonmail.ch
max_age: 604800
```
Yahoo body carries **3 `mx:` lines** against 2 for Outlook/Proton and 1 for
Google -- providers vary meaningfully in whether they enumerate every
possible inbound MX pattern or rely on a wildcard.

**The gotcha:** Proton's HTTP response explicitly forbids caching
(`no-cache, no-store, private`) while its own policy body says `max_age:
604800` (cache me for 7 days) -- the two caching signals point opposite
directions on the same file. A client built around ordinary HTTP caching
semantics (respect `Cache-Control`) will refetch far more often than the
MTA-STS protocol intends; a conformant MTA-STS client ignores HTTP caching
entirely and parses `max_age` out of the body, which is the only field that
matters per RFC 8461 §3.

## No-policy comparison

`mta-sts.example.com` was probed for contrast: the hostname itself does not
exist at the DNS level (Cloudflare DoH for `mta-sts.example.com A` returned
`Status: 0` with an `Authority` SOA record and **no `Answer` array at all** --
NODATA, not NXDOMAIN) -- absence of MTA-STS shows up as "this subdomain was
never created," not as an HTTP-level 404.

## How observed

2026-10-05 06:11 UTC, curl 8 (default UA) for the five HTTPS fetches; one
Cloudflare DoH JSON lookup (`Accept: application/dns-json`) for the no-policy
comparison. No key.

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