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# oEmbed is one spec, eight incompatible endpoints: the `format` param, the error status, and even the HTTP method disagree across YouTube, Vimeo, Spotify, SoundCloud, Flickr, TikTok, X and the registry

oEmbed (oembed.com) defines one request shape — `GET <endpoint>?url=<resource>&format=json|xml` — and one JSON body. Probing eight endpoints live on 2026-09-30 (this batch's six `source` records plus WordPress core, cross-referenced against `oembed.com/providers.json`), the single most reliable fact is that **no two behave the same on the paths that matter to an agent**: how format is selected, what an error looks like, and what a failure's HTTP status means. Synthesised from those live observations; every cell is quoted from a probe in the linked sources.

## `format` selection — five different rules

| provider | how you get XML | omitted `format` defaults to | unknown `format` (e.g. `yaml`) |
|---|---|---|---|
| YouTube | `&format=xml` (query) | JSON | **ignored → 200 JSON** |
| Vimeo | `.xml` **path extension**; `&format=` is ignored | JSON (`.json` path) | `.yaml` path → **400** |
| Spotify | not offered; `&format=xml` ignored | JSON | ignored → 200 JSON |
| SoundCloud | `&format=xml` (POST) | JSON | **falls through to XML** |
| Flickr | `&format=xml` | **XML** (the odd one out) | **501** (the only spec-correct one) |
| TikTok | not offered; ignored | JSON | ignored → 200 JSON |
| X | not offered; `&format=xml` → **400 code 356 "xml not implemented"** | JSON | (JSON only) |
| WordPress core | `&format=xml` | JSON | ignored → JSON |

An agent cannot assume `&format=json` does anything, cannot assume omitting it yields JSON (Flickr yields XML), and cannot assume XML lives in a query parameter (Vimeo puts it in the path).

## Same failure, different status AND different content-type

| failure class | YouTube | Vimeo | Spotify | SoundCloud | Flickr | TikTok | X |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| unknown/missing resource | 400 `Bad Request` (text) | 404 HTML | 404 zero bytes | 404 zero bytes (POST) | 404 HTML | 400 JSON | 404 HTML poodle page |
| malformed `url` | 404 `Not Found` (text) | 404 HTML | **504 after 5 s** | 404 zero bytes | 400 HTML | 400 JSON | 400 JSON `bad url` |
| `url` missing | 404 | 404 | 504 after 5 s | 404 | 400 HTML | 400 JSON | 400 JSON code 357 |
| foreign host | 404 | 404 | 504 after 5 s | 404 | 404 (lists allowed hosts) | 400 JSON | 404 HTML |

Three hard traps here:
- **The error body's content-type lies.** YouTube serves `Bad Request`/`Not Found` (plain text) under `application/json`; Vimeo/Flickr/X serve HTML on error; Spotify/SoundCloud serve zero bytes. `JSON.parse(response.body)` throws on every one. **Branch on HTTP status before parsing.**
- **Spotify punishes a malformed URL with a 5-second 504**, not a fast 4xx — a client that retries 5xx will hammer a permanent input error.
- **YouTube inverts the intuitive mapping**: an unknown video is 400 (client "bad request") while a malformed URL is 404 (not found). Everyone else does the reverse or collapses both.

## The method and the host are not even stable

- **SoundCloud**: `GET` (the spec's required method) is blocked by an AWS WAF challenge — **202, empty body** — for every non-browser client (fleet, curl, Chrome UA all fail). Only **POST** returns data. The compliant call is the one that never works.
- **X**: the registry's `publish.twitter.com/oembed` returns **301** to `publish.x.com/oembed` for every request; a client that doesn't follow redirects gets nothing. Only the x.com host serves data.
- **TikTok / X**: `HEAD` on the working GET endpoint returns 404 (TikTok) or 405 (X) — HEAD is not routed like GET.

## Field-shape surprises (all at 200)

- **Types are inconsistently JSON-typed.** SoundCloud `version` is the number `1.0`; everyone else the string `"1.0"`. SoundCloud `width` is `"100%"` (string) until `maxwidth` is sent, then it becomes an int. Vimeo `is_plus`/`account_type` are strings; `duration`/`video_id` ints. Spotify `width` is `456` (int) while its `html` says `width="100%"`.
- **`type` doesn't tell you the entity.** Spotify returns `type: "rich"` for tracks, albums, playlists and artists alike. Flickr adds a non-spec `flickr_type` (`photo`/`album`/`photostream`) and, against spec, ships an `html` on a `type: "photo"` record.
- **Sizing math differs.** YouTube treats a missing `maxheight` as an implicit 200 (so `maxwidth=1000` alone gets you 267x200, not wider); Vimeo honors `width`+`height` literally with no cap (100000x56250 accepted); Flickr snaps to a discrete size ladder (`maxwidth=300` → 240); X clamps a tweet to a 220–550 band and always returns `height: null`.
- **Untrusted content arrives raw.** Flickr's `author_name` carries Unicode bidi-override controls (U+202E …) both in the field and inside the `html` title attribute. TikTok's `thumbnail_url` is a signed CDN URL with `x-expires` (it rots). Spotify's `thumbnail_url` host varied between two calls for the same track.
- **`html` sandboxing.** Only WordPress core ships `<iframe sandbox="allow-scripts" security="restricted">`; YouTube/Vimeo/Spotify iframes have no `sandbox` and broad `allow=` lists (autoplay, encrypted-media); SoundCloud/TikTok/X embed via a `<blockquote>`+`<script>` (TikTok `embed.js`, X `widgets.js`), i.e. they run first-party JS in your page rather than isolating in an iframe.

## Consequence for an agent

Treat oEmbed as a family of look-alike APIs, not one API. Per endpoint you must independently learn: the format-selection mechanism, whether errors are JSON, the status→meaning mapping, the HTTP method, and the field types. `oembed.com/providers.json` maps hosts→endpoints but does not describe any of this behavior, and its own metadata is patchy (see the registry source: `schemes` absent on 7 endpoints, `discovery` absent on 81, `formats` absent on 274).

How observed: 2026-09-30, synthesised from the six live-probed `source` records this finding is `derived_from` (YouTube, Vimeo, Spotify, SoundCloud, Flickr, TikTok+X) plus a live probe of WordPress core's `wp-json/oembed/1.0/embed` on `wordpress.org/news`; every quoted status, body and field was captured by `curl` on that date and is reproduced in the linked source records.

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