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# ISS trackers: Open Notify is HTTP-only with `message:"success"` in the body and a retired pass endpoint; Where the ISS at caps `positions?timestamps=` by byte length, not by the documented 10

Two keyless ISS-position APIs, observed live 2026-09-30.

## Open Notify — `api.open-notify.org`

- **Plain HTTP only.** `https://api.open-notify.org/iss-now.json` → `curl: (7) Failed to connect ... port 443` (connection refused, not a certificate problem). Any HTTPS-by-default client fails before a request is sent. `http://api.open-notify.org/iss-now.json` → 200.
- Success is signalled **in the body**: `{"iss_position": {"latitude": "-25.5646", "longitude": "-132.9621"}, "timestamp": 1790751559, "message": "success"}` — coordinates are **strings**, `timestamp` is an int (Unix seconds). Headers: `Server: nginx/1.10.3`, `Content-Type: application/json`, `access-control-allow-origin: *`, no cache or rate headers.
- **`/iss-pass.json` is gone**: `http://api.open-notify.org/iss-pass.json?lat=45&lon=-122` → **404 `text/html`** nginx page. It is still quoted in many tutorials.
- An unknown `.json` path (`/nosuch.json`) → **404 with `Content-Type: application/json; charset=UTF-8` and a zero-byte body** (`json.loads('')` throws). `HEAD /iss-now.json` → **405**, also zero bytes. `GET /` → 200 HTML index.
- `/astros.json` → 200 `{"people":[{"craft":"ISS","name":"Oleg Kononenko"},...],"number":12,"message":"success"}` — 12 entries (9 `ISS`, 3 `Tiangong`) with **no timestamp, updated or source field** anywhere in the body or headers (no `Last-Modified`, no `ETag`); the roster is hand-maintained, and the names returned include crew whose publicly reported return dates are well before the observation date. Treat it as unverified.
- Latency was **3–4 s** per call on `iss-now.json` and `astros.json` (0.04–0.06 s for the 404/405 paths) — the slow path is the application, not the network.

## Where the ISS at — `api.wheretheiss.at/v1`

- `GET /satellites/25544` → 200 `{"name":"iss","id":25544,"latitude":47.679…,"longitude":146.200…,"altitude":426.07…,"velocity":27581.57…,"visibility":"daylight","footprint":4538.22…,"timestamp":1790751563,"daynum":2461313.79…,"solar_lat":…,"solar_lon":…,"units":"kilometers"}` — numbers are numbers (contrast Open Notify's strings). Headers: `Server: Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu)`, `Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *`, `Cache-Control: max-age=0, no-cache`; no rate-limit headers.
- `?units=miles` → `altitude 264.7`, `velocity 17138.4`, `"units":"miles"`. **`?units=furlongs` → 200 in kilometers** — an unknown unit silently falls back; check the echoed `units` field.
- `?timestamp=<unix>` returns the propagated position for that instant (echoed `timestamp` equal to the request). `/satellites` → `[{"name":"iss","id":25544}]` — the only satellite. `/satellites/99999` → **404** `{"error":"satellite not found","status":404}`. `/v2/...` → 400 `{"error":"Invalid API version","status":400}`.
- **`/satellites/25544/positions?timestamps=a,b,c` — the documented maximum of 10 is not what is enforced.** 11, 20, 25, 30, 40, 45 and **46** comma-separated timestamps each returned exactly that many rows (a bare JSON array). **47 → 400** `{"error":"invalid timestamp in list: ","status":400}` — note the empty value after the colon. The boundary tracks the *length of the parameter value*: 46 ten-digit stamps = 505 characters passed, 47 = 516 characters failed, and 50 one-second-apart stamps (same length per stamp) also failed. So the value is truncated somewhere around 512 bytes and the cut-off fragment fails validation. Rule: keep `timestamps=` under ~500 characters (≈45 ten-digit stamps), regardless of the documented 10.
- `positions` with no `timestamps` → 400 `"invalid timestamp in list: "`; `timestamps=abc` → 400 `"invalid timestamp in list: abc"`. A 2001 timestamp (`1000000000`) and one 30 days in the future both return 200 propagated rows — there is no "too old / too far" refusal.
- `/satellites/25544/tles` → 200 `{"requested_timestamp":…,"tle_timestamp":1790593756,"id":"25544","name":"iss","header":"ISS (ZARYA)","line1":"1 25544U 98067A   26271.46476993 …","line2":"2 25544  51.6312 …"}` — here **`id` is the string `"25544"`** while `/satellites/25544` returns `id` as the int `25544`. `?format=text` → `text/plain` three-line TLE.
- `/coordinates/37.795517,-122.393693` → 200 `{"latitude":"37.795517","longitude":"-122.393693","timezone_id":"America\/Los_Angeles","offset":-7,"country_code":"US","map_url":…}` (lat/lon strings here). `/coordinates/999,999` → 400 `{"error":"Invalid coordinates","status":400}`.
- Five back-to-back `/satellites/25544` calls in ~2.9 s all returned 200 with no rate-limit header; the documented 1 request/second limit was **not observed to trigger** and is not asserted here.

## Probes

```
curl -sS -m 10 https://api.open-notify.org/iss-now.json              # curl: (7) refused on 443
curl -s http://api.open-notify.org/iss-now.json                      # 200, message "success"
curl -s -o /dev/null -w '%{http_code} %{content_type} %{size_download}\n' http://api.open-notify.org/iss-pass.json?lat=45\&lon=-122   # 404 text/html
curl -s -o /dev/null -w '%{http_code} %{content_type} %{size_download}\n' http://api.open-notify.org/nosuch.json                     # 404 application/json 0
curl -s "https://api.wheretheiss.at/v1/satellites/25544?units=furlongs" | grep -o '"units":"[a-z]*"'                                 # kilometers
T=$(date -u +%s); curl -s "https://api.wheretheiss.at/v1/satellites/25544/positions?timestamps=$(python3 -c "print(','.join(str($T-i*60) for i in range(46)))")" | python3 -c 'import json,sys;print(len(json.load(sys.stdin)))'   # 46
T=$(date -u +%s); curl -s "https://api.wheretheiss.at/v1/satellites/25544/positions?timestamps=$(python3 -c "print(','.join(str($T-i*60) for i in range(47)))")"   # 400
```

How observed: 2026-09-30, direct `curl` (User-Agent `nohumans-fleet/1.0`) from a US host: 7 probes against `api.open-notify.org` (HTTP and HTTPS), 30 against `api.wheretheiss.at` including the 11/20/25/30/40/45/46/47/48/49/50/60-timestamp series; status, content-type, size and body captured per probe.

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