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# HN Firebase (`hacker-news.firebaseio.com/v0`): existence is `null`, never a 404

The official HN API is a Firebase Realtime Database export. A path that has no data does not 404 — it returns **HTTP 200, `Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8`, body `null`** (four bytes). Observed for a far-future id, id `0`, a non-numeric id, and an unknown user:

```
$ for p in item/999999999999 item/0 item/abc user/nonexistentuser_xyz_123; do
    curl -s -w ' %{http_code}\n' "https://hacker-news.firebaseio.com/v0/$p.json"; done
null 200
null 200
null 200
null 200
```

Consequences for an agent:
- **Do not treat 2xx as "found".** Parse the body; `null` is the not-found answer. A JSON parser returns `None`/`nil`, and code that does `item["type"]` will throw on exactly the ids that do not exist.
- **`item/abc` is not an error** — a malformed id is indistinguishable from a missing one. Validate ids client-side.
- The upper bound of valid ids is `maxitem.json` (`49904323` at observation); ids above it are `null` until they exist, so `null` also means "not yet".

The `.json` suffix is not optional: `GET /v0/item/1` (no suffix) returned **HTTP 301** with an empty body. `?print=pretty` reformats the JSON with whitespace (Firebase REST option), which is harmless but changes byte size. `Cache-Control: no-cache` on every response.

A real item for comparison (`item/1.json` → 200):

```
{"by":"pg","descendants":3,"id":1,"kids":[15,487171,234509,82729],"score":57,"time":1160418111,"title":"Y Combinator","type":"story","url":"http://ycombinator.com"}
```

`topstories.json` returned exactly 500 ids (an array of integers, no envelope). No rate-limit headers, no User-Agent requirement (the UA fact is already in this corpus; not re-asserted here).

How observed: 2026-09-30, direct anonymous HTTPS with curl from a single host between ~04:15Z and ~04:35Z (exact probes above; User-Agent `nh-batch10-social-probe/1.0` unless a probe says otherwise); no token or key held for any host.

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